800Mhz Analog Trunking still operating in Sydney

[blacktown]

I was quite suprised to find that the 800Mhz Analog Trunking sites are still up and running in Sydney.
I can hear AAP and GPT in the City *
Even Horsley Park came to life with some users a couple of weekends ago at the Equestrian Centre.
Cant hear Stadium Australia Homebush & Airport Hilton sites from my location.

Main customers are Bridgeclimb, Motorola Rental users and Sydney Ports Corp plus a number of smaller users
This is in defiance of competition from TETRA trunking (Motorola), NXDN trunking (Vertel), TRBO trunking (Orion), LTR Trunking (Vertel), UHF and VHF MPT1327 trunking (Vertel & Telstra) ... I think there is even a downsized Smartrunk system still running by Australian Mobile Radio.

Still suspect that this is maybe a long sunset and that the sites will be switched off eventually (the licences expire mid 2014)

Blacktown

* Data checked over last 10 days with Unitrunker and Treport and is current


AAP 800MHZ Sydney CBD

Sys Id 0832

FREQUENCIES
865.0125v
865.7625v
866.0125dv
866.7625v
867.0125dv
867.2625v
867.7625v
868.0125dv
868.2625v
868.3375v
868.7625v
869.3375v
869.7625v

13 frequencies in use
12 voice and 1 alternating data
d = Alternating data control channel
v = Voice Channel


TALKGROUP
656 Unid
2768 Plumbing
8272 Security
9680 Unid
20416 Plumbing
20432 Plumbing
20448 Plumbing
35968 Sydney Ports Corp
35984 Sydney Ports Corp
36000 Sydney Ports Corp
36016 Sydney Ports Corp
36064 Sydney Ports Corp
36080 Sydney Ports Corp
36096 Sydney Ports Corp
36112 Sydney Ports Corp
49296 Scrap Metal/Split Bins
49616 Towing?
49904 Bridgeclimb
50192 Unid
50224 Security Ch 1
50256 Security Ch 2 (Backchannel)
54992 Bridgeclimb
55408 Bridgeclimb
55440 Bridgeclimb
55792 Australian Traffic Network

Unid = Unidentified user
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GPT 800MHZ Sydney CBD

Sys Id 4620

FREQUENCIES
865.3625dv
865.5375v
865.5875v
865.8375v
866.3625dv
866.5375v
866.8375v
867.5375v
868.3625dv
868.5375v
868.8375v
869.3625v
869.5375v
869.5875v
869.8375v

15 frequencies in use
14 voice and 1 alternating data
d = Alternating data control channel
v = Voice Channel

TALKGROUPS
944 Courier
4800 Short-term Rental
4832 Short-term Rental
4864 Short-term Rental
4896 Short-term Rental
4928 Short-term Rental
4960 Short-term Rental
4992 Short-term Rental
5024 Short-term Rental
5056 Short-term Rental
5088 Short-term Rental
5120 Short-term Rental
5152 Short-term Rental
5184 Short-term Rental
10928 Produce Merchant
12048 Bridgeclimb
12080 Bridgeclimb
12112 Bridgeclimb
12144 Bridgeclimb
12176 Bridgeclimb
12208 Bridgeclimb
12240 Bridgeclimb
12272 Bridgeclimb
12304 Bridgeclimb
12336 Bridgeclimb
12368 Bridgeclimb
12400 Bridgeclimb
12432 Bridgeclimb
12464 Bridgeclimb
12496 Bridgeclimb
12528 Bridgeclimb
13200 Bridgeclimb
13232 Bridgeclimb
13264 Bridgeclimb
13296 Bridgeclimb
13328 Bridgeclimb
19536 Advent Security
20848 Sand, Soil and Gravel delivery
22544 Security
22608 Bridgeclimb
22640 Bridgeclimb
22672 Bridgeclimb
22704 Bridgeclimb
22736 Bridgeclimb
22768 Bridgeclimb
22800 Bridgeclimb
22832 Bridgeclimb

Unid = Unidentified user

[Newy1234]

Thanks Blacktown, listening to a bridge climb now on 866.8375 and 869.5875.

[blacktown]

Bridgeclimb is boring .... you hear the same thing over and over and over.
As far as I can figure out the climb leader has his own talkgroup allocation with up to a dozen radios receive only radios preset to that talkgroup.
Only the climb leader affiliates on the network

I have been listening to the 800Mhz analog sites in Sydney off and on for the last 10 years
I am suprised that they have persisted as long as they have

I think 500Mhz TRBO trunking will eventually take over ... from the little i can glean from various sources I hear 800Mhz TETRA has penetration problems in certain parts of Sydney due to the multitude of hills and valleys ... TETRA needs a lot more sites but the financials obviously dont warrant the investment

Blacktown

[Newy1234]

HAHAHAH, yes you are right Blacktown, about the bridge climb but I did learn some history and statistics about the bridge last night.

[blacktown]

Somebody posted this to the Radio Reference database for AAP 800Mhz
Looks like it came from somebody with a actual radio or from the codeplug
This made sense last year however most of the Bridgeclimb has now migrated back to GPT
Just for reference


Harbour Bridge Climb

54992 Bridge Climb Control Channel 1
55024 Bridge Climb Control Channel 2
55056 Bridge Climb Control Channel 3
55088 Bridge Climb Control Channel 4
55120 Bridge Climb Control Channel 5
55152 Bridge Climb Control Channel 6 Duty Manager
55184 Bridge Climb Channel A1
55216 Bridge Climb Channel A2
55248 Bridge Climb Channel A3
55280 Bridge Climb Channel A4
49872 Bridge Climb Channel A5
49904 Bridge Climb Channel A6
55312 Bridge Climb Channel B1
55344 Bridge Climb Channel B2
55376 Bridge Climb Channel B3
55408 Bridge Climb Channel B4
49936 Bridge Climb Channel B5
49968 Bridge Climb Channel B6
55440 Bridge Climb Channel C1
55472 Bridge Climb Channel C2
55504 Bridge Climb Channel C3
55536 Bridge Climb Channel C4
50000 Bridge Climb Channel C5
50032 Bridge Climb Channel C6
55568 Bridge Climb Channel D1
55920 Bridge Climb Channel D2
55952 Bridge Climb Channel D3
50064 Bridge Climb Channel D4
50096 Bridge Climb Channel D5

[blacktown]

800Mhz Horsley Park as at 7/5/13

Sys id 2a2

Frequencies
865.8125dv
866.8125dv
867.5625v
867.8125dv
868.5625v
868.8125dv
869.5625v

7 frequencies in use
6 voice and 1 alternating data
d = Alternating data control channel
v = Voice Channel

Talkgroups
57392 Short term rentals
57424 Short term rentals
57488 Short term rentals
57520 Short term rentals
57552 Short term rentals

ANZ Stadium Homebush as at 7/5/13

Sys Id 5114

Frequencies
865.0375v
865.3125v
865.6875dv
866.0375v
866.3125v
866.6875dv
867.0375v
867.3125v
867.6875dv
868.0375v
868.3125v
868.6875dv

12 frequencies in use
11 voice and 1 alternating data
d = Alternating data control channel
v = Voice Channel

Talkgroups
58000 Stadium Tours/Cleaners
58032 Asset Management
58224 Medical
58256 Security
58352 Unid

[RadioKid]

[quote="blacktown"]I was quite suprised to find that the 800Mhz Analog Trunking sites are still up and running in Sydney.
I can hear AAP and GPT in the City *
Even Horsley Park came to life with some users a couple of weekends ago at the Equestrian Centre.
Cant hear Stadium Australia Homebush & Airport Hilton sites from my location.

Main customers are Bridgeclimb, Motorola Rental users and Sydney Ports Corp plus a number of smaller users
This is in defiance of competition from TETRA trunking (Motorola), NXDN trunking (Vertel), TRBO trunking (Orion), LTR Trunking (Vertel), UHF and VHF MPT1327 trunking (Vertel & Telstra) ... I think there is even a downsized Smartrunk system still running by Australian Mobile Radio.


Im a bit of a noob when it comes to trunking(Im only 14, mind you! ). what is Tetra,Orion and NXDN? are they encrypted of just standard trunking under a special name?
Thanks,
RadioKid

[peteramjet]

Im a bit of a noob when it comes to trunking(Im only 14, mind you! ). what is Tetra,Orion and NXDN? are they encrypted of just standard trunking under a special name?
Thanks,
RadioKid

It can get complicated with all the different modes out there, but in basic terms, TETRA and NXDN are both digital modes. Orion is just the name of a network that runs the DMR (I think?) digital mode. All these modes can operate with or without encryption and all can be run as trunked networks. You can't use one mode to communicate with another - so a TETRA radio won't work with a DMR radio ect.

[blacktown]

The last of the 800mhz analog in Sydney was shut down by June 2014.
Its all Tetra now on 800mhz

[RadioKid]

And Tetra is unscannable with an analog scanner ei?

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[railscan]

And Tetra is unscannable with an analog scanner ei?
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TETRA is 'unscannable' period.

R

[peteramjet]

Unencrypted TETRA can be scanned using SDR, but not using any standalone scanners on the market. The software is freely available.

[Phil]

And Tetra is unscannable with an analog scanner ei?
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TETRA is 'unscannable' period.

R

the claim that tetra is "Unscannable" is not correct rather not monitorable via normal means and requires an SDR and Linux, i listen to it here in Brisbane and i know of a few people in sydney who also decode tetra