70cm on Alinco dr430

Post by **Shayn** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 10:20 pm

hi all, I have been in possession of my foundation licence for quite some time but never used it due to relocating, work, etc. I admit I need help. I live in the Lismore NSW area and need help in what I need to program into my Alinco DR430(commercial version) so it is useable. Any help would be appreciated. I also have a mobile 2m/70cm antenna.

I have been scanning 430mhz to 450mhz 25khz steps on a uniden 780xlt scanner all morning and I don't pick up a single thing.?

What might I be doing wrong or is it just no one in my area uses 70cm.?

What is the range of 70cm.?

Post by **Radio_Australia** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:24 pm

G'day , most likely no one is active on 70cm in your area . And there is no repeater , an auto ident is actually transmitted every half hour or so if there was a repeater .

Have you actually contacted your closest radio club to see If there any 70cm repeater in your area ?

Have you tried scanning the 2 meter band ?

I know with some regional areas it can be days without a single transmission .

Post by **Shayn** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:51 pm

Radio_Australia wrote:G'day , most likely no one is active on 70cm in your area . And there is no repeater , an auto ident is actually transmitted every half hour or so if there was a repeater .

Have you actually contacted your closest radio club to see If there any 70cm repeater in your area ?

Have you tried scanning the 2 meter band ?

I know with some regional areas it can be days without a single transmission .

Thanks for the info. I only have a 70cm uhf radio and a scanner at the moment. I have been scanning both frequencies for days with no result.

Post by **brianWE** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:57 am

Your local club is the Summerland Radio Club.
Been a while since I had any contact...but they used to be very helpful.
Even to CBers like me.

Post by **Twbtech** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:46 am

Mount Nardi... Radio RX: 438.675 Radio TX: 433.675 (- 5 MHz down) with a encode tone of 123.0

Try that

Post by **Comint** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 7:52 am

Twbtech wrote:Mount Nardi... Radio RX: 438.675 Radio TX: 433.675 (- 5 MHz down) with a encode tone of 123.0

According to the ACMA Database, and the WIA Callbook, Mt Nardi TRANSMITS on 438.675 MHz.
The ACMA Database also shows an Emission Designator of 16K0F2D, which usually implies Data rather than Voice.

The frequency of 438.675 MHz is also licenced for Parrots Nest, with an Emission Designator of 16K0F3E.

The CTCSS is only required when a User is transmitting TO the Repeater, on 433.675 MHz.

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Post by **Shayn** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:58 pm

Twbtech wrote:Mount Nardi... Radio RX: 438.675 Radio TX: 433.675 (- 5 MHz down) with a encode tone of 123.0

Try that

both work now thanks. I think I had the encode tone set incorrectly.

Post by **ScannerDude** » Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:27 am

Shayn wrote:hi all, I have been in possession of my foundation licence for quite some time but never used it due to relocating, work, etc. I admit I need help. I live in the Lismore NSW area and need help in what I need to program into my Alinco DR430(commercial version) so it is useable. Any help would be appreciated. I also have a mobile 2m/70cm antenna.

I have been scanning 430mhz to 450mhz 25khz steps on a uniden 780xlt scanner all morning and I don't pick up a single thing.?

What might I be doing wrong or is it just no one in my area uses 70cm.?

What is the range of 70cm.?

Be aware of the limitations of your licence. You are only allowed to use equipment that can operate
at 3 watts FM maximun so the DR430 is out.

Post by **ScannerDude** » Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:35 pm

Comint wrote:
Twbtech wrote:Mount Nardi... Radio RX: 438.675 Radio TX: 433.675 (- 5 MHz down) with a encode tone of 123.0
According to the ACMA Database, and the WIA Callbook, Mt Nardi TRANSMITS on 438.675 MHz.
The ACMA Database also shows an Emission Designator of 16K0F2D, which usually implies Data rather than Voice.

The frequency of 438.675 MHz is also licenced for Parrots Nest, with an Emission Designator of 16K0F3E.

The CTCSS is only required when a User is transmitting TO the Repeater, on 433.675 MHz.

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Comint
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No licence is required to transmit on 433.675 Mhz with CTCSS or listen on 438.675 Mhz hence
unlicenced operators could legally use the repeater.

Post by **Comint** » Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:14 pm

ScannerDude wrote: No licence is required to transmit on 433.675 Mhz with CTCSS or listen on 438.675 Mhz hence
unlicenced operators could legally use the repeater.

WRONG.

433.675/438.675 are both in the Amateur Band and definitely require individual Licences,

1. For the Repeater itself, and
2. For the Repeater User.

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Comint
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Post by **Phantom** » Fri Jun 03, 2016 12:14 am

ScannerDude - you mention that you have an Advanced Amateur licence. That is concerning as the 433/438 is CLEARLY in the amateur band and require a license to use. Maybe you should read up on the LCDs again?

Post by **Vkfour** » Fri Jun 03, 2016 6:55 pm

Some of the 70 centimetre band used to be used by LIPD devices, but the were well below the repeater part of the band and they were definitely NOT allowed to communicate with amateurs, who were operating as amateurs, as opposed to using the LIPD stuff themselves.

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