Begginning of the end - AV Radio Upgrade

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Boort8720
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Begginning of the end - AV Radio Upgrade

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It is with regret, that I inform you all of Ambulance Victoria's (AV) new Digital Radio Upgrade Program (DRUP2). After a successful 'soft launch' of some AV units trialling the new digital radios in the Geelong area, the official launch of the project will begin on the 20th of January 2025.

New, digital encrypted UIDs on the RMR as well as digital voice audio piped onto the SMR are the clear indicators that have been inevitable for some time. AV will soon become digitally encrypted across the state of Victoria. Rollout dates are as follows:
  • Barwon SW: Jan 2025
  • Grampians: March 2025
  • Loddon Mallee: May 2025
  • Hume: July 2025
  • Gippsland: October 2025
Unfortunately, the upgrade is neccessary, due to several issues with interference on the SMR. Jump on the SMR and give AV a good listen to, before it's all over.

Take care all.
Mitch Baker - VK3GLV

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Re: Begginning of the end - AV Radio Upgrade

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A good friend has been keeping me in the loop. His town has been under the scrutiny of a number ACMA vehicles. Wondering if this may have been the interference source.
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Re: Begginning of the end - AV Radio Upgrade

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Sounds a bit dodgy! Pirates ruining it for everyone...

The SMR, in my listening experience, is renowned for interference from crossover channels and prone to droputs. Heard some commercial SMR users (apparently they still exist!), cut over an AV dispatcher giving case details. No fault of their own, just an issue the SMR sometimes has.

As per project points:
Today's RavNET Network
  • 20YO analogue technology
  • Many blackspots
  • Rural and Metro channels are disconnected
  • Portables rely on being cloned to vehicle radio
  • Portable duress function relies on cloning
Future RMR Network
  • One statewide common network with improved coverage
  • Digital audio quality is noticeably better
  • Cloning portables is not required
  • Able to communicate with Dispatchers, DMs, Clinicians and ED Hospital staff,
    across both metro and rural
  • Rural crews will be required to carry portable radios at all times
  • Duress function more reliable with improved features i.e. displays location of user
    and automatic audio from scene
  • Triple Zero Vic will have improved features to ensure dispatch is streamlined and menial
    tasks are reduced i.e. Selcall, duress process, resource location visibility
Mitch Baker - VK3GLV

Uniden UBCD396XT, BCT15X, UBCD996T, UBCD436-PT, Tait TM9100, Simoco SRM9000 (VHF + UHF DMAP), Motorola XTS5000R, XTS2500, Codan 9323 (Codan 9030 Autotune Antenna)
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Re: Begginning of the end - AV Radio Upgrade

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Further to my last post: There is also the Mobile data Network into Rural (MDNR) project that is planned, giving rural AV units the same capabilities as metro AV units.

I cannot see the EAS being superseeded by this project, since 3G has been switched off. 4G coverage will not allow the EAS to be superseded
Mitch Baker - VK3GLV

Uniden UBCD396XT, BCT15X, UBCD996T, UBCD436-PT, Tait TM9100, Simoco SRM9000 (VHF + UHF DMAP), Motorola XTS5000R, XTS2500, Codan 9323 (Codan 9030 Autotune Antenna)
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Re: Begginning of the end - AV Radio Upgrade

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I'm on the border in Albury so lucky I have NSW as well. I rarely listen to AV because it often sounds like a 'dog's breakfast' compared to NSW. The 164 Mhz narrow band FM transmissions are mostly S3 and have been for 10 years. As an ex NSW ambo I take my hat off to the controllers who do a sterling job under difficult conditions.
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Are We Witnessing Its Decline?

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Is the radio scanning hobby slowly becoming obsolete in the age of digital communication and streaming services? With the rise of online platforms and apps replacing traditional radio, what can enthusiasts do to rejuvenate interest in this once-thriving pastime? Are there innovative approaches or technologies that could attract a new generation of hobbyists?
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Re: Begginning of the end - AV Radio Upgrade

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@GregorySab, I certainly wouldn't say its becoming obsolete. There's still plenty out there to listen to. Data decoding, satellites, airband, etc.

Software Defined Radio (SDR) has been an absolute game changer in making scanning more user friendly and widening the possibilities.

Even in Amateur radio, the digital modes are a lot of fun to play with, on different bands too. Depending on your license class, you can even transmit data packets via microwave links.

Whilst scanning emergency services, in Victoria, has diminished in the last 10 years; radio scanning itself is still very much alive and arguably even more accessible and interesting with SDR
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Re: Are We Witnessing Its Decline?

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GregorySab wrote: Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:44 am Is the radio scanning hobby slowly becoming obsolete in the age of digital communication and streaming services? With the rise of online platforms and apps replacing traditional radio, what can enthusiasts do to rejuvenate interest in this once-thriving pastime? Are there innovative approaches or technologies that could attract a new generation of hobbyists?
There are many different platforms one can "scan" as such it all depends if you wish to be left behind or upskill and continue in with an amazing adventure.

Be thankful we don't live in Tasmania where 90% of all radio communications are encrypted.

Unfortunately Aviation is probably next to move away from analogue radio systems with the implementation of both Onesky & Skykraft systems.
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