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G'Day blokes,

I'm hoping you all can help me with some abbreviations please.
Any info or ideas will be helpful.
These are primarily fire fighting / CFA used.
I've put in the ones I know, just in case they are incorrect. :)
So, yeah, what specifically are these? Examples? Locations? Info?

Cheers.


RDO = Rostered Duty Officer (One per district, e.g. RDO22)
SCC = State Control Centre (Is in Nicholson St, Melbourne).
ICC = Incident Control Centre (Umbrella term???)
DCC = District Command Centre (Can be LCFs, one per district, e.g. D14, D18, D22 each have one)
RCC = Regional Control Centre
LCF = Local Command Facility (Umbrella Term??? or a physical station in general? Sub-base?, specific facility?)
FOV = Field Operations Vehicle (Van type vehicle)
FCV = Forward Command Vehicle (Ute type vehicle)
STL = Strike Team Leader (travels with a group of 5 appliances, oversees 5 Crew Leaders)
MCV = Mobile Command Vehicles (Bus type vehicle, can act as a Lvl2 ICC)
IMT = Incident Management Team (the people in an ICC)
IC = Incident Controller
SC = Sector Commander
CL = Crew Leader (1 per appliance)



Also, what are sort of, overlap, as in umbrella terms are there?
As in, an LCF can be a DCC, or it can be an FOV, or an RCC etc?


And regarding the line of control,
doesn't it go: IC > SC > STL > CL
Incident controller commands multiple sector commanders, who each command a strike team leader, who take care of a group of 5 appliances > 1 Crew Leader per appliance on a strike team?


Again, thanks to anyone who can help this bloke understand this wonderful world :D
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Where to start...

DCC District Command Centre - Setup at the District HQ. normally run RDO, management support, warnings and advice out of this on a RL3a/b Day - FDI 35-49.

LCF - Local Command Facility - Scattered around districts,
Can be setup as a Level 2 Incident Command Facility. When a large Level 3 job, may revert to Divisional Command.

In regards to LCF being a DCC etc. they are all seperate facilities. And no a FOV is just that, an FOV not an LCF etc.

Chain of Command. An vary depending on size of incident, but you have the right idea. Pop in Divisional Commander above a sector commander. DIVCOM may control several sectors.

All other seem to be correct!!

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No, no, thanks a heap Ash, that really helps to clarify things.

So, if you don't mind, is the following correct:
For a Level 3 Incident, where the full control structure is active, the chain of command is as follows:
IC > OpsOff > DivComm > SC > STL > CL > C
(Incident Controller > Operations Officer > Divisional Commander > Sector Commander > Strike Team Leader > Crew Leader > Crew)

The IC is part of the IMT (Incident Management Team) in an ICC (incident Control Centre), he commands the OpsOff, also on the IMT, and also in the ICC.
The OpsOff commands the DivComm, who may be in the ICC, but may also be in an LCF (Local Command Facility).
The DivComm commands several Sector Commanders.
Each Sector Commander controls multiple Strike Team Leaders (Who form part of a strike team. See below *)
Each Strike Team Leader (in a dedicated vehicle) commands 5 Crew leaders (who are 1 on each appliance)
Each Crew Leader (one per appliance) commands his Crew (multiple per appliance).

*A strike team is made of 5 trucks with full crew, each truck having a Crew Leader (who is responsible for his Crew), and a Strike Team Leader, who travels in a separate vehicle, an FCV, Slipon or Staff Car (who is responsible for each Crew Leader).
The only thing is, where are the SCs, as in physically? In an ICC? Or an LCF? Or more Fireground?



Thanks for helping out with those abbreviations, and particularly what the are used for / do.
Is these any specific requirement for certain facilities to be LCFs?

Also, I retrieved the following stats from official documents:
1x SCC
8x RCC (Regional Control Centres)
46x ICC (Incident Control Centres)
150+ Div Comms
I know the SCC is in Nicholson St, Melbourne.
RCCs??? Where are they? I assume they are large ICCs? As in, one for each region. (But there's 5 regions, and 8 RCCs???)
ICCs? Are scattered around again? These would be the ones in Geelong, Benalla, Wodonga and Seymour (just to name a few)?
DivComms? 150+ They make out like they are physical places / things. I thought they were people who could be in and ICC or an LCF?

Again, thanks for helping a bloke out.
All my questions are probably wearing thin, I'm just trying to learn :P
Cheers.
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Good afternoon Blake.

I'll bring to your attention that RDO actually stands for Regional District Officer. I'm an ex CFA volunteer and that is how I know that one. Hope this helps you out. Things have changed a bit since I was in there but am considering joining up again.


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Ok, cheers for that shuts :)

Regional District Officer, not Rostered Duty Officer :P
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A LCF and divcomm are one in the same thing. Originally called a divcomm (divisional command if I remember right) and then a name change made them a LCF, it was around the time regions got renamed back to districts
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Ok, that make sense now.
That was the bit I was struggling with grasping.

Thanks for chiming in Simon Snorkel. :D




Oh and with the RDO thing.
I'm not disputing you personally shuts, just and observation.
It's just I cannot find 'Regional District Officer' mentioned anywhere in direct reference to the CFA,
While I find 'Rostered Duty Officer' plenty of times.
Thanks for your input though (I could be wrong too, it's known to happen :lol: )

Can anyone else confirm what RDO stands for?




For a Level 3 Incident, where the full control structure is active, the chain of command is as follows:
IC > OpsOff > DivComm > SC > STL > CL > C
(Incident Controller > Operations Officer > Divisional Commander > Sector Commander > Strike Team Leader > Crew Leader > Crew)

The IC is part of the IMT (Incident Management Team) in an ICC (incident Control Centre), he commands the OpsOff, also on the IMT, and also in the ICC.
The OpsOff commands the DivComm, who may be in the ICC, but may also be in an LCF (Local Command Facility).
The DivComm commands several Sector Commanders.
Each Sector Commander controls multiple Strike Team Leaders (Who form part of a strike team. See below *)
Each Strike Team Leader (in a dedicated vehicle) commands 5 Crew leaders (who are 1 on each appliance)
Each Crew Leader (one per appliance) commands his Crew (multiple per appliance).

*A strike team is made of 5 trucks with full crew, each truck having a Crew Leader (who is responsible for his Crew), and a Strike Team Leader, who travels in a separate vehicle, an FCV, Slipon or Staff Car (who is responsible for each Crew Leader).
So, in regard to a lvl3:
The IC is part of the IMT in the ICC.
The OpsOff is part of the IMT in the ICC.
DivComm, is in / is an LCF (Local Command Facility), which are scattered around the state?
Sector commander is... where? in the ICC? in the LCF? or more towards the fireground?
STLs are part of the strike team on the fireground (ish). They are in a seperate car (an FCV?)
CLs are on each of the five appliances in the strike team.


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RDO is the Rostered Duty Officer for the District. It's normally an Operations Officer who gets the duty, hence RDO22 is the OO who is on duty for District 22.

RCC's are usually at Regional HQ as far as I know.

DivComm (Divisional Commamd) is usually run by Groups at a station or LCF and are a step between the LCF and ICC if the job is over multiple Brigade Groups.
the head honcho at each facility is dependant on the size of the job (LCF - Volunteer Group Officer, DivComm- Vol Group or career Officer, ICC - Ops Officer or Ops Manager)

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I will stand corrected on RDO. After careful reflection it should have been RO which stood for Regional Officer when I was in the CFA. Sorry Blake for leading you up the garden path.


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madmarto, very helpful.
Thanks for clearing things up, and providing easy to understand info.


shuts, no problem mate.
We all have those moments.



All right, changing tack a little bit, channels on the plan.
What do these abbreviations mean, and what are the channels used for?

VMR - Ch 498
IBR - Ch 396
TR - Ch 210
MFB- Ch 110

I believe they are all CFA channel.
They were some ones that stood out and had no obvious use AFAIK.
MFB could be Metropolitan Fire Brigade, but I thought 110 was sometimes used for strike team travel channel???

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X-Firey wrote:LOL... Gr8 P50. LMAO...
i agree with you x-fiery. And if you do!!!!!


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Blake wrote:madmarto, very helpful.
Thanks for clearing things up, and providing easy to understand info.


shuts, no problem mate.
We all have those moments.



All right, changing tack a little bit, channels on the plan.
What do these abbreviations mean, and what are the channels used for?

VMR - Ch 498
IBR - Ch 396
TR - Ch 210
MFB- Ch 110

I believe they are all CFA channel.
They were some ones that stood out and had no obvious use AFAIK.
MFB could be Metropolitan Fire Brigade, but I thought 110 was sometimes used for strike team travel channel???

Thanks fellas.


VMR is Vehicle Mounted Repeater
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TR Trailer / Transportable Repeater
IBR In Building Repeater

Correct Ch.110 was the old MFB / CFA Liason channel from memory.
Also correct in that VMR is Vehicle Mounted Repeater.

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Well, that's rather logical. :shock:
Duh me. :cry:


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EDIT:
I've removed the question here, as it was better suited to a new thread.


I'm still assimilating the above info, just rereading and letting it sink in, going over some other notes and documents.
I'm starting to form a bit of a picture.

Thanks everyone for chiming in.
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