Scanning digital in vic

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Hi all, I've recently upgraded my bcd436hp to accept DMR and I'm looking for frequencies, happy to share what I'm finding also I'm assuming this will mostly apply to the +DSD boys but if you have a dmr receiver please partake!


466.0750
Tgids 330500, 350050, 360001

463.6500
Tgids 56, 60, 262200, 120, 105, 0

464.3250
Tgids 100

465.1500
Tgids 16515174, 16515173,

466.5875 high activity sunshine west
Tgids 703998, 330500, 352807, 327994, 327993, 380106, 330601, 330600, 352890, 352885, 310005, 310006, 353608


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novaboy032 wrote:Hi all, I've recently upgraded my bcd436hp to accept DMR and I'm looking for frequencies, happy to share what I'm finding also I'm assuming this will mostly apply to the +DSD boys but if you have a dmr receiver please partake!

High activity from sunshine west on 465.1500 haven't listed tgids yet

466.0750
Tgids 330500, 350050, 360001

463.6500
Tgids 56, 60, 262200, 120, 105, 0

464.3250
Tgids 100

465.1500
Tgids 16515174, 16515173,

466.5875 high activity sunshine west
Tgids 703998, 330500, 352807, 327994, 327993, 380106, 330601, 330600, 352890, 352885, 310005, 310006, 353608


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466.0750 & 466.5875 is the Orion Network - Mt Dandenong site

TG 703998 is a talkgroup for a bus company here in Brisbane called Transdev

465.1500 is Kemcor Australia out of Altona

463.6500 is CSE Crosscom out of 120 Collins Street - possibly their Capacity Plus network

and 464.3250 us Mobile Communications Systems from 600 Bourke Street
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Thanks Phil!
Is there a database somewhere I haven't found that lists all of these?
Where would I find more info on the orion network? Because I'm assuming there's more frequencies than what mount dandenong is putting out

Also we have transdev here too, so maybe that's them, will do some more listening

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The Orion network consists of sites at Mt Dandenong, 101 Collins Street Melbourne, Arthurs Seat on the Mornington peninsula and Mt Bellarine on the Bellarine peninsula. I don't think anyone in Victoria has compiled a database for public use.
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novaboy032 wrote:Is there a database somewhere I haven't found that lists all of these?
Not sure if it's what you're looking for mate, but frequency wise, everything is on the ACMA database.
It just needs a little bit (read; a lot) of sifting through, you'll get quicker at finding what you need in time though.

HERE: http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/regis ... .main_page

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X-Firey wrote:The Orion network consists of sites at Mt Dandenong, 101 Collins Street Melbourne, Arthurs Seat on the Mornington peninsula and Mt Bellarine on the Bellarine peninsula. I don't think anyone in Victoria has compiled a database for public use.
Well I'm keen on giving it a Crack off mt dandenong to begin with, I'll search for Collins tomorrow and keep saving Tgids

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That great. I have been involved in scanning since the mid '70's. I'm new to this DMR thing having recently purchased a TRX-1 for the DMR/NXDN capability and enjoying the challenge.... mostly....

There is also other Orion sites I forgot, that's Murradoc Hill and Dandenong.

As a matter of interest Uniden (USA) have just announced a DMR upgrade for the BCD325P2 and BCD996P2. I don't believe the upgrade is suitable for the UBCD325P2-AU. So if anyone has a BCD996P2 and some spare $'s keep a lookout for the release of the update. It will be cheaper than purchasing a Whistler TRX 1/2 or 4/536HP.
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Thanks for the help x-firey

Just a heads up to anyone trying to do the uniden updates, you need a credit card registered in the US to complete it as the updates aren't available on the Australian website. Zip scanners sent me the unlock code for mine (at an inflated price)

Here is an updated TGID list I've pulled from sites 31 and 32

309072
320301
327991 possibly bus company
327993
330200
330300
330501
330600 towing company in cbd
330601 doing Clearways in mornings
350050
352500
352750
352802
352803
352805
353008
359967
359975
360001
388614
388618
388625
395001
703998

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465.1500 is Kemcor Australia out of Altona
Also known as Qenos. Qenos in Altona looked to be using a single site Tier III DMR system at one stage. Network ID: L13 Site: 2.2 465.1500MHz carrying CC traffic.

System was installed by MCS Digital: http://mcsdigital.com.au/dmr/
Radio info: http://www.hytera.com.au/navigation.htm ... =newDetail
463.6500
Tgids 56, 60, 262200, 120, 105, 0
This is part of a CSE Crosscom managed Capacity Plus system. The second frequency from memory was 463.5500 but I'll need to refer to my notes at home to confirm this is the correct second frequency.

TGID 53 is a good one to listen in on. You'll soon pick up on who is using that ID.

BTW on the Crosscom Orion Network site you asked about. City Of Melbourne should be on there from memory and see FB for some further information that you asked about. Also I reckon I've heard one of the two companies servicing the Vicroads Traffic Light System use the network for dispatch of faults and such in the metro area.
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Okay just checked my notes. Unfortunately I can't locate my most recent file so these are from a back up. But there will be others who could fill in a few blanks or offer corrections.

I have the following;

120 Collins Street - Capacity Plus System 1
Ch.1 463.5500 [Slot 1]
Ch.2 463.5500 [Slot 2]
Ch.3 463.6500 [Slot 1]
Ch.4 463.6500 [Slot 2]

120 Collins Street - Capacity Plus System 2
Ch.1 488.6750 [Slot 1]
Ch.2 488.6750.[Slot 2]
Ch.3 486.5750 [Slot 1]
Ch.4 486.5750 [Slot 2]

As for your 120 Collins Street Crosscom Connect Plus System

Network 1 Site 31

Ch.1 473.1500 [Slot 1] Heard used as control channel
Ch.2 473.1500 [Slot 2]
Ch.3 494.0000 [Slot 1] Heard used as control channel
Ch.4 494.0000 [Slot 2]
Ch.5 Unknown Freq C [Slot 1]
Ch.6 Unknown Freq C [Slot 2]
Ch.7 Unknown Freq D [Slot 1]
Ch.8 Unknown Freq D [Slot 2]
Ch.9 492.1875 [Slot 1]
Ch.10 492.1875 [Slot 2]
Ch.11 Unknown Freq F [Slot 1]
Ch.12 Unknown Freq F [Slot 2]
Ch.13 Unknown Freq G [Slot 1]
Ch.14 Unknown Freq G [Slot 2]
Ch.15 Unknown Freq H [Slot 1]
Ch.16 Unknown Freq H [Slot 2]
Ch.17 Unknown Freq I [Slot 1]
Ch.18 Unknown Freq I [Slot 2]
Ch.19 Unknown Freq J [Slot 1]
Ch.20 Unknown Freq J [Slot 2]
Ch.21 Unknown Freq K [Slot 1]
Ch.22 Unknown Freq K [Slot 2]
Ch.23 Unknown Freq L [Slot 1]
Ch.24 Unknown Freq L [Slot 2]

Some of the other frequencies this system uses are;
470.2500
470.3250
473.0750 (Channel 5 & 6?)
485.7750
474.5375
474.5375

Mt Dandenong site uses;

Mt Dandenong
Ch.1 Unknown Freq A [Slot 1]
Ch.2 Unknown Freq A [Slot 2]
Ch.3 Unknown Freq B [Slot 1]
Ch.4 Unknown Freq B [Slot 2]
Ch.5 Unknown Freq C [Slot 1]
Ch.6 Unknown Freq C [Slot 2]
Ch.7 Unknown Freq D [Slot 1]
Ch.8 Unknown Freq D [Slot 2]
Ch.9 Unknown Freq E [Slot 1]
Ch.10 Unknown Freq E [Slot 2]

466.0750
466.5875
472.9000
473.9250
474.5250
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how did you pay for the dmr upgrade last time i checked it would only accept us credit cards and i had no luck in purchasing it
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i purchased one from scanner master at the time it was an xtra 50 us dollars plus the scanner as well
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scannerman wrote:how did you pay for the dmr upgrade last time i checked it would only accept us credit cards and i had no luck in purchasing it
Organised mine through zip scanners in the USA
I spoke to the guy in the live help chat on the site as I has some issues putting it through the checkout but he was quite helpful and I had the code in a few days

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One DMR trunking system that doesnt seem to have got much attention so far is Silvercomms DMR Tier III upgrade from their existing UHF MPT1327 network (similar to what Vertel is doing in NSW on their VHF MPT1327 network). Originally 7 sites it has now been expanded to 9 sites. There should be a Tier III control channel site at each site, as well as an existing MPT1327 control channel at 7 sites. If i was in Melbourne i would be logging which frequencies are DMR and what is analog MPT1327 (obvious from the end of call tones)

https://www.taitradio.com/about-us/news ... -3-upgrade

SILVER COMM - 500 BOURKE STREET MELBOURNE
415.6375, 415.8000, 416.0625, 416.1375, 416.3000, 416.5625, 416.6375, 416.8000, 417.0625, 417.1375, 417.3000, 417.5625, 417.6375, 417.8000, 418.0625

SILVER COMM - MT WAVERLEY
415.9250, 416.0500, 416.4250, 416.5500, 416.9250, 417.0500, 417.4250, 417.5500, 417.9250, 418.0500,

SILVER COMM - CERES
415.6875, 416.1875, 416.6875, 417.1875, 417.6875,

SILVER COMM - PRETTY SALLY
415.6750, 416.1750, 416.6750, 417.1750, 417.6750

SILVER COMM - FERNY CREEK
416.0125, 416.5125, 417.0125, 417.5125, 418.0125.

SILVER COMM - MT GISBORNE
415.8125, 416.3125, 416.8125, 417.3125, 417.8125

SILVER COMM - KINGLAKE
415.9375, 416.4375, 416.9375, 417.4375, 417.9375

SILVER COMM - GLENROY
415.8875, 416.3875, 416.8875, 417.3875, 417.8875,

SILVER COMM - ARTHURS SEAT
415.7625, 416.2625, 416.7625, 417.2625, 417.7625
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blacktown wrote:One DMR trunking system that doesnt seem to have got much attention so far is Silvercomms DMR Tier III upgrade from their existing UHF MPT1327 network (similar to what Vertel is doing in NSW on their VHF MPT1327 network). Originally 7 sites it has now been expanded to 9 sites. There should be a Tier III control channel site at each site, as well as an existing MPT1327 control channel at 7 sites. If i was in Melbourne i would be logging which frequencies are DMR and what is analog MPT1327 (obvious from the end of call tones)

https://www.taitradio.com/about-us/news ... -3-upgrade

SILVER COMM - 500 BOURKE STREET MELBOURNE
415.6375, 415.8000, 416.0625, 416.1375, 416.3000, 416.5625, 416.6375, 416.8000, 417.0625, 417.1375, 417.3000, 417.5625, 417.6375, 417.8000, 418.0625

SILVER COMM - MT WAVERLEY
415.9250, 416.0500, 416.4250, 416.5500, 416.9250, 417.0500, 417.4250, 417.5500, 417.9250, 418.0500,

SILVER COMM - CERES
415.6875, 416.1875, 416.6875, 417.1875, 417.6875,

SILVER COMM - PRETTY SALLY
415.6750, 416.1750, 416.6750, 417.1750, 417.6750

SILVER COMM - FERNY CREEK
416.0125, 416.5125, 417.0125, 417.5125, 418.0125.

SILVER COMM - MT GISBORNE
415.8125, 416.3125, 416.8125, 417.3125, 417.8125

SILVER COMM - KINGLAKE
415.9375, 416.4375, 416.9375, 417.4375, 417.9375

SILVER COMM - GLENROY
415.8875, 416.3875, 416.8875, 417.3875, 417.8875,

SILVER COMM - ARTHURS SEAT
415.7625, 416.2625, 416.7625, 417.2625, 417.7625
My work runs on silvercomm but they're all on NXDN/IDAS but I'll scan around and see what else they run

I got a close call hit off a work radio that a silvercomm tech set up the other day and the transmit freq is 155.3000 but all you can hear is an encoded signal

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Bump

Anything changed recently?

I'm finding that I'm now getting no traffic on Orion...

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At all?

Currently at work and don't have my radios with me. Will check when I get home tonight, unless of course someone else beats me to it.
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Scratch that I just picked up something off it

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