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PDW & New Pager system?

Postby holdensupporter » Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:55 am

Hi, With the rollout of the new pagers to CFA, Ambo & SES across victoria. The old pager network is going to be switched off on the 31st October 2013. Anyone that doesn't have the new pagers won't recieve messages on the old X3 Pagers. Just wondering if this change will also have an affect on PDW?? is the Pager frequency changing?
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Re: PDW & New Pager system?

Postby melbourneradio » Sun Oct 27, 2013 12:25 pm

That's a good question !!!

I have seen the "new" freq pop up on the database ,

what you have said is both true and false ,

any pager will receive any signal , well providing its on the correct freq and cap code , and of course unless its got some sort of encryption attached

the last I heard on this was the "network" was going to be split for a better word , one freq was going to run the CFA SES AVCG MFB and one was Going to do AV/ taking in both RAV and MAS , doing away with the orange paging network , like I said this is what I have heard , weather its fact or fiction we are still to see ,

but rest assured if you have an "after market " prog pager like the unicom uj22 or Apollo range you will still be able to receive messages , although there may be a change in freq and capcode you just program the new details in the pager and away you go again ,

the reason the X3's will no longer work is ither of the above will change and once they do the software is not available to change them so they will no longer see the messages
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Re: PDW & New Pager system?

Postby Comint » Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:28 pm

melbourneradio wrote:any pager will receive any signal , well providing its on the correct freq and cap code , and of course unless its got some sort of encryption attached

So you're saying a POCSAG pager will receive FLEX.

I don't think so.

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Re: PDW & New Pager system?

Postby melbourneradio » Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:57 pm

So you're saying a POCSAG pager will receive FLEX.

I don't think so.


Gotta Love it , there one that want to pick knits in every bunch !!

how ever yes you are correct a possag pager will not decode flex , how ever were were talking about the CFA /EAS and given its a possag system and as far as I can ascertain its staying possag , I thought this was a given and thought that adding possag /flex argument to the mix would only confuse the original poster who seems a bit green or new when it comes to the pagers , by the tone of the original post
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Re: PDW & New Pager system?

Postby Travisdh » Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:32 pm

Thanks for the useful information.

Are you aware of if the CFA pagers will change frequency, or if the CFA pagers will stay on the same frequency, and the MAV / RAV ambulance service will change frequency given the services are going to be split.

I wonder what effect this will have on the various turnout systems (e.g. TIMS) since they are all tuned into the pager network. With this in mind do you know if the CFA pager frequency will change?
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Re: PDW & New Pager system?

Postby melbourneradio » Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:45 pm

Thanks for the useful information.

Are you aware of if the CFA pagers will change frequency, or if the CFA pagers will stay on the same frequency, and the MAV / RAV ambulance service will change frequency given the services are going to be split.

I wonder what effect this will have on the various turnout systems (e.g. TIMS) since they are all tuned into the pager network. With this in mind do you know if the CFA pager frequency will change?


yeah good question !!!!!

I don't know as is said its all alleged or here say and speculation ,

although it has been noted a new paging freq has been registered ,

I would only guess that the CFA /SES/AVCG/MFB will stay put , as you say to much hassle in the long run to change all the system's ,

and then when /if the spllt eventuates the MAS/AV will change to the new freq , how ever it is only a guess ,

it has been rumoured that the new freq has a mirror of the current at this stage if you wish to have a play around
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Re: PDW & New Pager system?

Postby G5 Pilot » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:32 pm

Any updates on this?

I plan to install pdw
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Re: PDW & New Pager system?

Postby melbourneradio » Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:49 am

not as yet ... I have seen no changes to the current pager freq so I have not seen a need to set up another pc with another freq
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Re: PDW & New Pager system?

Postby ozradio » Fri May 08, 2015 8:31 pm

Just a clarification on this as the upgrade occured late last year...

The changes produced were not changing of the frequencies rather it was the addition of an extra frequency. Every pager would still be programmed with both frequencies but the point of it was during high network usage high speed transmission of pager messages would occur as messages could be sent on either one of the frequencies based on which one was free at the time at the given transmitter site. If you want to make sure you capture all pager messages you will need to have two scanners set up and be monitoring both frequencies at the same time to capture all broadcasts.
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Re: PDW & New Pager system?

Postby melbourneradio » Sun May 31, 2015 7:11 am

The changes produced were not changing of the frequencies rather it was the addition of an extra frequency. Every pager would still be programmed with both frequencies but the point of it was during high network usage high speed transmission of pager messages would occur as messages could be sent on either one of the frequencies based on which one was free at the time at the given transmitter site. If you want to make sure you capture all pager messages you will need to have two scanners set up and be monitoring both frequencies at the same time to capture all broadcasts.


Not quiet correct ... ALL AV messages have now gone compleatly from the "old " freq to the "new " one ..
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